911 (992) [Official] Porsche 911 (992 Series)

[boyko23]

Imv, this is GTS, not GT3...

 

[LaArtist]

GCF GT3 scoop

I dont think that is a GT3, anyway nice in sweden and all.

 

[mihc]

 

[Deleted member 1071]

I just knew that I've seen this particular color theme before...

 

[Laurent T]

In two weeks from today: Auto Motor und Sport's first test of the 992!

Any news from the test ?

 

[bmwz4coupe]

In two weeks from today: Auto Motor und Sport's first test of the 992!

Two weeks has gone today.....

 

[bmwz4coupe]

Sport Auto's first test will come on April 12. It's stated as TEST, but hopefully they will delay the Supertest of the Yaris GRMN because of the 992.

Sport Auto is delaying tests all time, they have never had a better reason to do it than now....

 

[martinbo]

Had a good, long poke and prod around 992's interior today. I'll pen my thoughts later... but it ain't looking good.

 

[DeDe]

Two weeks has gone today.....

...and no 992-test. R8 V10 Performance instead...

 

[bmwz4coupe]

...and no 992-test. R8 V10 Performance instead...

...and no 992-test. R8 V10 Performance instead...

Ahhh ok, thanks! And do you have test results/scans of the R8 test?

 

[bmwz4coupe]

Ahhh ok, thanks! And do you have test results/scans of the R8 test?

Forget it, just saw that you posted it under Scans... As always thanks a lot Dede!

 

[DeDe]

Ahhh ok, thanks! And do you have test results/scans of the R8 test?

It's in the Scans subforum.

 

[kingjr9000]

Porsche Planning Electrified Versions of Every Model by 2030
By Patrick Rall- March 18, 2019
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Taycan and Cross Turismo will launch the electrified Porsche campaign, with the Macan EV on the way.
According to Yahoo Finance, we will see electrified versions of every single Porsche car and sport utility vehicle by 2030. This campaign began with the Mission E Concept, which will be known as the Taycan in production form, and will continue on with the crossover version of the Taycan that will be called the Cross Turismo. The Macan, the brand’s bestselling vehicle, will be the next to get a charging door, but over the course of the next decade, every other model will get some form of electrification.

This includes the mighty 911.

Mission E
The Porsche road to electrification started by in 2015 with the introduction of the Mission E Concept. That sleek, sporty, all-electric sedan show that the company can incorporate the core values of the brand into an EV, resulting in a proper sport-luxury sedan that runs completely without fossil fuels.

The reception of the Mission E was so great that company planned a production version, which eventually began known as the Taycan. The look of the production Taycan is still a mystery, but the black-and-blue teaser images here are the best we have seen thus far. We expect that the production car will look a great deal like the Mission E Concept, but we will find out later this year exactly what it looks like when the Taycan finally breaks cover.

More recently, we learned that the Mission E Cross Turismo will arrive in 2020 as the Taycan Cross Turismo, looking like a roomier version of the electric luxury-sport sedan.

With any luck, the high performance drivetrain that will motivate the premium versions of the Taycan will also be found in the911, but first up, we will see an all-electric Macan. This is a move that will likely keep the small SUV atop the brand’s global sales charts.

Hybrids, Too
In addition to the all-electric drivetrain that will power the Taycan and Macan, the German automaker plans to utilize more hybrid technology as well. The Porsche 918 is one of the greatest supercars in the world and it achieves its incredible performance figures with hybrid power and the Panamera is already offered in hybrid form.

Once the Macan is electrified and the Taycan models are available, the Panamera will join them to account for three electric-powered models in the lineup of six models. That leaves the Boxster and Cayman, the 911 and the Cayenne. It seems likely that the Cayenne will get a similar drive train to the smaller Macan while the Boxster and Cayman could share a drivetrain with the 911.

We are sure to learn more in the next few years, but above all, we can be sure that every electrified Porsche will be a blast to drive.

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

Had a good, long poke and prod around 992's interior today. I'll pen my thoughts later... but it ain't looking good.

Ah, jeez, talk about a cliffhanger. The new cupholders pissed you off that much?

 

[rollo]

Ah, jeez, talk about a cliffhanger. The new cupholders pissed you off that much?

My guess is the "waterfall" dashboard and disappointment with the quality of materials. And maybe that stupid gear lever.

 

[martinbo]

Ah, jeez, talk about a cliffhanger. The new cupholders pissed you off that much?

Sorry for that, people to see, places to go...

I'll get straight to the point, am of the opinion that the 992's interior is a disappointment and quite a considerable one at that. Bear in mind that this is a 911 we're talking about here.

Like I said earlier, I had a proper look around the 992's interior. The car I sat in was a right-hand drive example and I didn't feel like taking detailed photos in front of nosy sales people.
The above image will serve the purpose of describing my findings just fine. So, in no particular order:

The grip insert on the grab handle is nothing but hard plastic with a textured finish. Nothing soft-touch here.
This filler panel on the door card is hard plastic.
This is a messy intersection on the instrument panel, maybe I'm just an old dog in a modern world, but this new practice of simply suspending raw-edged display screens over the fascia results in an unfinished feel - almost as if you're still sat in a prototype without the full trim in place.
This new horizontal shelf serves, I surmise, multiple purposes: to add some visual brightwork to the dashboard; lend a classic aesthetic harking back to original 911 interior cues; provide a customisable piece to match the various, personalise-able interior options. In its standard form it doesn't feel particularly special - if it is aluminium trim it doesn't feel any nicer than plastic - and exhibits quite a bit of flex.
One of the worst elements in the entire interior - this little filler panel in plain view and reach is totally sub-par for this class of vehicle. Dare not prod or tap it as it feels cheap and sounds flimsy & hollow.
On to yet another of the interior's glaring missteps for the world's premier sportscar benchmark... this ventilation unit is entirely hard, black, scratchy plastic. It looks like it just clips into the underside of the fascia as a complete afterthought. Even the jog-wheels to open and close the vents are just hard plastic. Notice too at this point that there is no actual continuity or flow of the centre console into the tunnel console like in the 991 or 982. These are two distinctly separate units divided by a narrow crevasse; heaven help you if you accidentally drop a credit card or parking ticket down there...
This tunnel console unit consists entirely of hard plastics. Barring the padded knee rests, none of the plastics are soft to the touch - not even the lower trim running the length to underneath the armrest bin. Some trim inserts feel nice but upon closer inspection they still are just plastic despite some texturing. Again, I reiterate, this entire unit is finished in hard plastic.
This awful cup holder design is just that. Awful. Yes, it clips out. Chuck it out the window.

Now, based on the above, if you didn't know me you'd probably be thinking that this fella's got an axe to grind with Porsche. This couldn't be further from the truth; I absolutely love and admire this brand and their products. Perhaps you're thinking that I don't have a proper frame of reference? To which I will say that I was swapping in and out of an adjacent 991.2 GTS at the time. The outgoing car's interior feels instantly sturdier, unimpeachable even. Sure, its button festooned dash looks a bit dated but its hewn-from-granite solidity is an examplar of sports car build quality.
The interesting thing is that 992's interior feels nowhere near as special as that of Panamera's either - not even close. In summary it feels unfinished with corners cut in plain sight; the fact that the car is 50 kilos heavier makes you wonder even more - what's all that extra weight gone into? Superfluous stuff like electric motors for the door handles then...

So, get your hands on a 991.1 or, if the all-turbo line-up doesn't bother you, a 991.2 and hang on to that 911 forever. There'll never be anything like it again.

 

[Sunny]

Yea, I too am curious to hear @martinbo's take on the 992 interior quality. From just pics, it looks better for the most part than 991 (switch gear, vents) but worse in other parts (center console black plastic surrounds, center dial details)

For the record, IMO, 991 interior materials is worse than 997.2 (but better than 997.1).

ps.Just saw Martin's post. Disappointing to read that. Now the question is can dead cow skin and deviated stitching options fix it?

 

[DocM]

Leather and stitching will up the quality no doubt but not the inherent design flaws pointed by Martin. This is one interior that will receive a lot of criticism and hopefully be addressed by the 992.2!
I wasn’t a big fan of the exterior at first but must admit that it’s “grown” on me!

 

[LaArtist]

I shall check these matters up close and personal on Sunday. Test driving it, I will report back.

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

Sorry for that, people to see, places to go...

I'll get straight to the point, am of the opinion that the 992's interior is a disappointment and quite a considerable one at that. Bear in mind that this is a 911 we're talking about here.

Like I said earlier, I had a proper look around the 992's interior. The car I sat i...

Shit, that's disappointing. I am not the biggest fan (he he) of the center HVAC vents myself despite the nod to yesteryear 911. And I suspected the center console was rather plasticky but hoping that wouldn't be the case in person. I guess Porsche really wants the buyer to lux up the interior with all sorts of options. Thanks for the thorough analysis.