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[dalab]

But if Mercedes/Audi phase out ICE, what are they going to sell in Russia?

Dash cams?

 

[Centurion]

One of the drawbacks of an EV in developing or under developing nations, is that they make you vulnerable to robbery. Furthermore, if you have enemies, they can cut your power at night while you are asleep, making you stranded in your home in the morning and ripe for robbing, assaulting or killing.

There a some countries where you don't want to be sitting in a gas station for 30-60min to charge your car.

 

[Serpens]

One of the drawbacks of an EV in developing or under developing nations, is that they make you vulnerable to robbery. Furthermore, if you have enemies, they can cut your power at night while you are asleep, making you stranded in your home in the morning and ripe for robbing, assaulting or killing.

There a some countries where you don't want to be sitting in a gas station for 30-60min to charge your car.

Seems to me if they wanted to get you that bad they could just slash all of your tires.

 

[Giannis]

One of the drawbacks of an EV in developing or under developing nations, is that they make you vulnerable to robbery. Furthermore, if you have enemies, they can cut your power at night while you are asleep, making you stranded in your home in the morning and ripe for robbing, assaulting or killing.

There a some countries where you don't want to be sitting in a gas station for 30-60min to charge your car.

I'm pretty sure that if you've made it into a target for assasination, then it won't matter if you drive an EV or an ICE car.

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

Seems to me if they wanted to get you that bad they could just slash all of your tires.

Perhaps, but slashed/deflated tires look more obvious as you approach the vehicle. Whereas slashed power cords aren't as obvious. I'd imagine once a person gains entrance (assuming the electric door pulls are also not functional thus you'd have to resort using the manual override to gain ingress) to inspect what is wrong with the car, that potentially makes the distracted individual vulnerable.

Regarding security, that was an issue that I was also wondering about with regards to BEV. I imagine in a hypothetical chase that spirited driving would greatly diminish range? Also, especially for those who are state officials, I am sure these targets would be further amplified for cyber attacks?

 

[J.E]

Dash cams?

I think every car or truck in Russia should have a dash cam as standard equipment.

 

[klier]

I think every car or truck in Russia should have a dash cam as standard equipment.

They are all but required, and everyone with a car has one in Russia.

They allow us to see astroids/comets

 

[J.E]

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[Sunny]

Timely, since Africa came up in the E class thread -

Tesla Launches First Supercharging Stations In Africa

Tesla has opened its first ever Supercharging stations in Africa. There are two of them right now, both in Morocco, in the northern part of the country.

insideevs.com

Interesting bit from the article -

Tesla is expanding the Supercharging network at a very high rate of almost 3 stations per day - (at least that was the average in the Q2 2021) and about 26 stalls per day.

 

[klier]

Timely, since Africa came up in the E class thread -

Tesla Launches First Supercharging Stations In Africa

Tesla has opened its first ever Supercharging stations in Africa. There are two of them right now, both in Morocco, in the northern part of the country.

insideevs.com

Interesting bit from the article -

That's awesome. It means Africa will have an EV network in 2429!

 

[Centurion]

That's awesome. It means Africa will have an EV network in 2429!

Pretty much. In some African countries, people still drive Toyotas, Hondas and Nissans from the 1990s. I don't blame them though. Those cars are super reliable, good for 250-500k Miles and can te repaired by any mechanic.

 

[Sunny]

That's awesome. It means Africa will have an EV network in 2429!

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[Sunny]

Pretty much. In some African countries, people still drive Toyotas, Hondas and Nissans from the 1990s. I don't blame them though. Those cars are super reliable, good for 250-500k Miles and can te repaired by any mechanic.

By that logic, Africa should still be stuck on land lines, but they are not. Your logic suffers from this common human folly - https://quoteinvestigator.com/2019/01/03/estimate/

 

[klier]

By that logic, Africa should still be stuck on land lines, but they are not. Your logic suffers from this common human folly - https://quoteinvestigator.com/2019/01/03/estimate/

But setting up reliable electricity networks is no easy feat. Not to be compared by anything done in the past, I believe. What also doesn't help is the fact that Africa is gargantuan.

 

[Sunny]

But setting up reliable electricity networks is no easy feat. Not to be compared by anything done in the past, I believe. What also doesn't help is the fact that Africa is gargantuan.

I think you are making the common mistake of assuming that a service has to be in every nook and corner to be viable or useful. It doesn't. Just like most other places on Earth, the population in Africa too is heavily concentrated in few areas. So you really don't need to have a station in every nook and corner to benefit the vast majority of the population.

Cursory Googling tells me - "In Africa, 90% of the population is concentrated in less than 21% of the land surface...". Add to that the fact car ownership in Africa is ~5%, you can probably cover that car owning population with a tiny % of the total land surface.


Pop density map that makes it very evident -

 

[klier]

Yeah, I mean I hope they make a fast and smooth transition.

 

[Centurion]

I think you are making the common mistake of assuming that a service has to be in every nook and corner to be viable or useful. It doesn't. Just like most other places on Earth, the population in Africa too is heavily concentrated in few areas. So you really don't need to have a station in every nook and corner to benefit the vast majority of the population.

Cursory Googling tells me - "In Africa, 90% of the population is concentrated in less than 21% of the land surface...". Add to that the fact car ownership in Africa is ~5%, you can probably cover that car owning population with a tiny % of the total land surface.


Pop density map that makes it very evident -

Very good points. You don't public chargers in every corner of a country, the same way not every house in the US has access to high speed broadband.

 

[Sunny]

BEVs overtook diesels in Diesel's own fatherland -

Trend -

 

[Sunny]

UK data. Diesel is dead there.

 

[Centurion]

Wow. Grim share of new sales for diesel. For fleet and company car buyers diesel makes no financial sense. BEVs and plug-in hybrids have substantial tax benefits.